Phil James mobile: Okay, you guys got notice that you're being recorded.
Phil James mobile: And there's there's 2 of me, because I'm both on my phone and on my
Phil James mobile: computer.
Phil James mobile: great
Phil James mobile: so the agenda we posted to the website.
Phil James mobile: I've got it. It's on a separate computer
Phil James mobile: conveniently. So I'm not gonna display it. But people, can.
Phil James mobile: We can race through today?
Phil James mobile: les, is there anything in particular you want to cover you? You help me with the agenda.
Phil James mobile: and I've got a bunch of stuff you had
Phil James mobile: said. Any
Phil James mobile: you want to kick us off with.
Les Wright: Well, yeah.
Phil James mobile: If not, that's fine.
Les Wright: Yeah, I was just making notes, because there's a couple of other things that
Les Wright: I I wanted to to bring up.
Les Wright: I'll save. Let's see, I'll save the archive community report for later.
Les Wright: well, let's see.
Les Wright: I went to the Rehoboth Beach Bear weekend
Les Wright: several weeks ago now. And that that was a great experience, and I had learned from
Les Wright: the Provincetown Bear week.
Les Wright: that
Les Wright: getting a table in the vendors, Booth is the best place.
Les Wright: because people can find me. And
Les Wright: when people find out that I'm there they can find me. And
Les Wright: yeah, Rovers Beach several people brought material
Les Wright: to be placed in the archives.
Les Wright: It's a great way, you know, networking and and talking with people and getting kind of, you know. Next, referrals of people to talk to, and that's where a lot of new interviewees I'm I'm discovering and bringing our way.
Les Wright: How many.
Phil James mobile: How many people is the Rebut, Rehoboth bear
Phil James mobile: weekend.
Les Wright: I?
Les Wright: It's it's small ish.
Les Wright: I would say, under a thousand.
Les Wright: So it's it's a lot more, you know, intimate, and has more of a community feel than
Les Wright: the P-town did. And.
Phil James mobile: Okay.
Phil James mobile: No.
Les Wright: Let's say, it turns out that I actually
Les Wright: know a whole bunch of the guys I've worked with on other projects in the past, and
Les Wright: they all are good friends with each other, and
Les Wright: kind of the the it's they call it the Dmv. Washington, DC.
Les Wright: Have altibor and environs are, you know, very important in early bear days, which I hadn't realized. And and so yeah, it was great in a lot of ways. And for anybody who didn't know. I actually
Les Wright: met someone and am now in a a long distance relationship with.
Les Wright: And Mike lives in Palm Springs, and he knows a gazillion. People in the bear community, too. And so, anyway. So that's that's
Les Wright: the that's the skinny on that.
Phil James mobile: I'm chuckling when you say Dmv. I have an Ex who had a really good friend
Phil James mobile: who lived on the Delmarva Peninsula.
Phil James mobile: and when we went to visit her, and I said what we just saw. Bump! We saw 2 bumper stickers, and it said, I'm from the Shithouse side of Maryland. What does that mean? And she said, Oh, the governor came here and said, I care about you people here on the Shit house. So people had bumper stickers and said that
Phil James mobile: I know you're in good.
Phil James mobile: Great! The Re. One of the reasons we're focusing on numbers is
Phil James mobile: our board member, Nick.
Phil James mobile: who's a professor in
Phil James mobile: Edinburgh.
Les Wright: Brighton.
Phil James mobile: Is seeking Brighton. Okay, seeking funding for us. And one of the things he's
Phil James mobile: doing and fighting is because of. Well.
Phil James mobile: there is really a big
Phil James mobile: community or not, and you know yes, we are. And so he's collect
Phil James mobile: numbers of how many people meet where so speeches
Phil James mobile: and bear week. Provincetown seemed to be the biggest
Phil James mobile: gathering so far, so we're kind of keeping an eye on that
Phil James mobile: morning. Mel. Hey?
Phil James mobile: Alright!
Phil James mobile: Great!
Phil James mobile: Oh.
Les Wright: Well, yeah.
Phil James mobile: Yeah. Go ahead.
Les Wright: No, I was just gonna say
Les Wright: If if you add up together all of the bear events around the world, because there's always at least one somewhere, every weekend
Les Wright: And and while there are some people who go to more than one, I mean, it's a lot that really is a lot of people out there.
Les Wright: So anyways, yeah.
Phil James mobile: Well, one of the good things about the number we got about p-town, is.
Phil James mobile: It? Was the Ballo who had
Phil James mobile: kind of a more official number.
Phil James mobile: A bunch of bears. Say, how many people it was. The Boston Globe said.
Phil James mobile: Tourism Bureau says this many people come to P-town Bear week. So
Phil James mobile: yeah, great
Phil James mobile: I'll mention
Phil James mobile: we're thinking of having
Phil James mobile: annual elections in May.
Phil James mobile: Around the time of international Mr. Leather. Not necessarily
Phil James mobile: there or going there, but kind of as a calendar item, because at the moment
Phil James mobile: Iml
Phil James mobile: doesn't move, it's always that same weekend in Chicago
Phil James mobile: the last
Phil James mobile: the last Sunday in may. Is that what it is? So we're thinking, oh, well, maybe that's when our our fiscal and calendar year will start and end.
Phil James mobile: So
Phil James mobile: people should think about.
Phil James mobile: Are they interested
Phil James mobile: in some? That's a good idea, you know. Groups like ours flourish in the past, have had a large board.
Phil James mobile: or at least very good designated committees.
Phil James mobile: So people should think if there's something that they want to do.
Phil James mobile: it doesn't need to be big, doesn't need to be public. But if there's something you'd want to do.
Phil James mobile: There's a couple of us that have, you know, for 3 years now, 3 and a half years we've done most of the organizing
Phil James mobile: and it'd be great for new people to come in and do some stuff. There's definitely there's some web stuff that there's some interviewing stuff that can be done.
Phil James mobile: There's kissing Booth. There's stuff at event, air events.
Phil James mobile: There's stuff that we can do merchandise.
Phil James mobile: If people are interested, you know. Let somebody who's from the board me les Mel
Phil James mobile: Nick
Phil James mobile: and Alejandro.
Phil James mobile: our treasurer, our financial bear.
Phil James mobile: Alejandro. Yeah, that's officially, and there's a list on the website.
Phil James mobile: Ml,
Phil James mobile: we're kind of thinking at International, Mr. Leather. That will be the official
Phil James mobile: kickoff of our collaboration with the Leather Archives and museum.
Phil James mobile: So I'm planning on
Phil James mobile: less is hoping to go.
Phil James mobile: And we'll see, you know, if other people are going, then, great! Let's plan some stuff
Phil James mobile: there
Phil James mobile: less. I should really talk to
Phil James mobile: our contact from the leather archives. And just talk about
Phil James mobile: a table. Can we have an event?
Phil James mobile: Can we get on the I guess we can talk to Mike Hernandez, can we get on
Phil James mobile: official calendar for Iml? And just at least announce who we are
Phil James mobile: and we get into the.
Phil James mobile: I guess that they probably have a just a virtual program. Now, last couple of years they've had a digital program.
Phil James mobile: and you know, a QR screen.
Phil James mobile: But there's probably ad space we could get there.
Phil James mobile: So
Phil James mobile: that's something.
Mel Baker: Good to have a it'd be good to have, like a
Mel Baker: Storycorps style
Mel Baker: set up with Mics and things where we could just interview lots of people at the event.
Phil James mobile: Yeah. So we get like a sign up list, or whatever.
Mel Baker: Yeah.
Mel Baker: just just have some sort of, and maybe some sort of presentation. Who we are. Why, we're doing this. I don't know what Iml is like
Mel Baker: haven't been in.
Phil James mobile: It's a madhouse.
Mel Baker: 2 decades. Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: yeah, maybe we could have a
Phil James mobile: Well, it might be too late to get an actual. Well, we could get probably get a conference room for
Phil James mobile: interviews.
Phil James mobile: and somebody at the door, and you know, kind of nag people and or tell people, hey, show up at 2 o'clock on Friday or whatever.
Phil James mobile: So that's a good idea.
Phil James mobile: Let me write that down.
Phil James mobile: great thanks, Mel.
Phil James mobile: I want to mention.
Phil James mobile: Merchandise is up and running I still have to check on.
Phil James mobile: Are we getting?
Phil James mobile: I'm not sure we're getting a kickback from press.
Phil James mobile: I haven't seen anything yet.
Phil James mobile: I know we have a minimum on number of, you know. I think they're only supposed to pay us every $200,
Phil James mobile: so I'd be surprised if we haven't hit $200 yet
Phil James mobile: on things we bought. But I haven't heard many people talk about
Phil James mobile: what they're getting. I know my purchases alone.
Phil James mobile: les. I see your message. Great thanks,
Phil James mobile: So merchandise is starting to happen. We're gonna do we think we're gonna do lapel pins? We're gonna use
Phil James mobile: wizard pins
Phil James mobile: and get a couple 100 of us
Phil James mobile: and sell them, for, you know, a little bit of a fundraiser. So
Phil James mobile: we want Iml. So I'll we're just gonna get a few 100
Phil James mobile: cool interviews, les. You want to talk about interviews.
Les Wright: Yeah. One other thing to share about the merchandise. I've started
Les Wright: buying the T-shirts and
Les Wright: you know, giving them to people
Les Wright: like, you know, like the organizer of Rehoboth Beach and
Les Wright: I'm trying to think of a few other people, too. Yes.
Les Wright: That's what I've been been giving.
Les Wright: and kind of, you know, kind of an acknowledgment and a thank you. And when I've had extras I've
Les Wright: I've asked people to pass them on, you know, for for advertising for us.
Les Wright: okay? And and the interviewing.
Les Wright: yeah, at this point, I've I've got. I finally got all my files organized. We have completed
Les Wright: over 25 interviews.
Les Wright: I do have at this point a couple that were that I did on the phone and took notes because the individuals did not want to be recorded.
Les Wright: We've got.
Les Wright: I think, over 50 people now.
Les Wright: we're trying to interview and I think, just
Les Wright: in the last week. Now another 3, I've you know, handed over over to Phil to to set up that they've agreed to do them
Les Wright: and of the others, you know. Finally, keep on keeping track of this.
Les Wright: Several of them
Les Wright: are discovering simply need to be to get a to get a reminder to to respond, to follow through
Les Wright: others. I you know
Les Wright: I've sent a second, and in some cases even a 3rd reminder, and
Les Wright: I don't know
Les Wright: Whoa!
Les Wright: Either a change of heart, or you know they've lost interest, or or I don't know.
Les Wright: But I've also learned that when the when the when the iron is hot. I need to stripe because people who are Gung ho!
Les Wright: If a month or more passes, then they kinda lose interest, and I don't know what that's about.
Phil James mobile: I think we also need to
Phil James mobile: start getting some of the
Phil James mobile: out there.
Phil James mobile: And so I've discovered that the software that we're heading toward using
Phil James mobile: descript. Does an artificial intelligence driven
Phil James mobile: short highlight reel version of what we've done.
Phil James mobile: And so I've captured one of those, and it looks it looks really good at a 1st pass.
Phil James mobile: There's a, you know. Please take out all of the stop words, all the ums and ahs! So Les and I did an interview. It's like an hour and 15 min this week.
Phil James mobile: Go go! The King of the Go Go bears Hunter Harden. It was a really good interview. But it was a, you know, an hour and 20 min.
Phil James mobile: and
Phil James mobile: descript. Make a 10 min version of this, and it said, Oh, what about the stop words. There's 763. Stop words, I said. I am not going through those into. Yes.
Phil James mobile: take them all out, add a little padding, and then make a 10 min video.
Phil James mobile: And so I have to go back and edit that. But
Phil James mobile: I think we're on a on the way of at least getting these out into the world. So I I did one with I did one of Les's interview.
Phil James mobile: That came out pretty well. His. I did like a 4 min version. So I'm gonna race through and do some more of those. And then we'll have something that we can show people and tease them, basically with the longer ones.
Phil James mobile: The hunter Harden interview was great because
Phil James mobile: I made him cry like, what more is there to
Phil James mobile: Big Muscle Bear cry. So
Phil James mobile: that's towards the end of the interview. He was a he was an amazing.
Phil James mobile: It was an amazing interview. You kind of think.
Phil James mobile: Oh, in fact, he talked about, you know, being thought of as a big, dumb muscle bear. He was one of the most articulate people we've talked to. It was a really good interview.
Phil James mobile: was really good about like. What did he want to talk about and not want to talk about? And he really opened up a lot and told us a lot, so
Phil James mobile: that was a good one that's in the can, and I'll get the highlight reel together.
Les Wright: Now
Les Wright: and.
Phil James mobile: So yeah, I think we have 3 or 4 more
Phil James mobile: scheduled.
Les Wright: You know, and and we really need to
Les Wright: recruit at least one more person to do interviews.
Les Wright: you know. Because because I had kind of
Les Wright: suggested early on with the Bear History Project. International. Is that kind of once we get on our feet and start moving forward, a lot of stuff is going to start coming at us. And that's what's going on right now.
Les Wright: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Yeah.
Les Wright: No.
Phil James mobile: Again. That might be a May timeframe
Phil James mobile: committee head that's not less, and not me. It's not. It's obviously not very difficult.
Phil James mobile: We start with the same questions which people get in advance.
Phil James mobile: You know they sign a waiver so that we can use the material.
Phil James mobile: And it's kind of a free, free, flowing conversation. I realize most people haven't seen any of what they look like. So if people want to see behind the scenes.
Phil James mobile: we can share that.
Phil James mobile: Also, there's a public list of
Phil James mobile: the ones that we've done, although it's just a list of who we've done, and that's on the website on the coming soon, stories and podcast page. Currently so
Phil James mobile: and as I say that I look to Jeffrey because he's the one that got our website started. He's providing our space and
Phil James mobile: provided the framework that we built out from there. So.
Jeffrey Glover: I might be.
Phil James mobile: Interviews are going well.
Jeffrey Glover: Interviews, too. So if you know, if you do have a template that works pretty well. I I wouldn't mind trying to do a couple of interviews myself.
Les Wright: That that would be great, especially since you have experience interviewing. And
Les Wright: it could really get some great interviews. I think, yeah.
Mel Baker: And I.
Phil James mobile: And then Jeffrey.
Mel Baker: After the election I can. I can finally put some energy into this.
Les Wright: Also. Yes.
Mel Baker: Yeah, I'm I'm just up to my eyeballs and
Mel Baker: our election coverage. So
Mel Baker: yeah.
Phil James mobile: Jeffrey. A number of the people on the get list
Phil James mobile: are people you have suggested? Are you should give some thought.
Phil James mobile: The people that you suggest?
Phil James mobile: Are they people that you know? Are they.
Jeffrey Glover: Yeah. They're all.
Phil James mobile: Water.
Jeffrey Glover: I know. Yeah, they're all people I know personally, and I'm sure they'd be happy to talk
Jeffrey Glover: so. You know, I just wasn't sure. You know, if if you know less was running that show or whatever. But you know sorry about my voice, and so got a bad cold like a lot of people but but once I get over the cold, I'd be happy to do the interviews.
Les Wright: Already. Yeah.
Phil James mobile: This is bad beer, for a cold springs.
Jeffrey Glover: Yes, I'm hoping I'm hoping it'll be gone by next weekend.
Phil James mobile: What is it this year deeper than ever? Or was that last year.
Jeffrey Glover: Oh, I don't know I don't. I don't know what it, what.
Phil James mobile: I think this year is deeper than this year, was maximum thrust.
Jeffrey Glover: Yes. Well, I'm working on my Halloween costumes behind us for the next weekend, which is probably weekend too.
Phil James mobile: Big fan. You're a big. You're gonna be a big fan.
Jeffrey Glover: Oh, well, no, yeah. You're gonna be a plumber.
Jeffrey Glover: Okay? Commerce.
Ali Lopez: Crack! Love that.
Jeffrey Glover: Yeah. Everybody does.
Jeffrey Glover: Hey? Ollie?
Les Wright: Hi Al.
Ali Lopez: Hello!
Phil James mobile: Let me mention funding so.
Jeffrey Glover: So.
Phil James mobile: Looking.
Jeffrey Glover: Where can I find these the template for the interview? Les.
Les Wright: Phil, Phil has that information at.
Phil James mobile: Yeah.
Les Wright: Right there, right.
Phil James mobile: Go to our website, go to our website and look on the page.
Phil James mobile: And the waivers are on that.
Phil James mobile: And the interview questions are also on that.
Phil James mobile: So the interviews page.
Jeffrey Glover: Okay, the addictry.org.
Mel Baker: The idea with the template is, we wanna just have those questions at minimum. So they're part of like a database.
Jeffrey Glover: Sure.
Mel Baker: So you can go off in any direction that you, as the interviewer.
Jeffrey Glover: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it depends on if you're talking to. You know, former Porn Star, if you're talking to a founder of a bear event versus a celebrity. You know, you're gonna have different questions.
Les Wright: Yeah, yeah, and and they.
Phil James mobile: You're part of the you're part of the Central Committee.
Phil James mobile: you have access to the stored raw interviews, but I can send you a dropbox link to that. That's where they're.
Jeffrey Glover: I'm pretty sure I have the dropbox link somewhere, but I'll I'll keep an eye out for it.
Phil James mobile: Yeah, yeah.
Les Wright: Yeah, and and we've.
Les Wright: Added, added to the basic questions.
Les Wright: outline at the very beginning that we found that it's like necessary to, you know. Tell them that one they can use. They can remain anonymous, or use whatever pseudonym they like.
Les Wright: and B. That
Les Wright: they are free to answer whatever questions
Les Wright: they're comfortable with. You know.
Jeffrey Glover: And.
Les Wright: Answer our questions.
Jeffrey Glover: And what? What? And I? Maybe Mel already answered this one. But what software are people using to? What are you using to do the interviews.
Phil James mobile: We've done zoom so far, and we're testing out the script itself.
Phil James mobile: I'd cast in
Phil James mobile: to hope to go to, because then
Phil James mobile: the individual voices are recorded locally to the person, and then.
Jeffrey Glover: Is that better?
Jeffrey Glover: Yeah.
Mel Baker: That's a that's a double. So squadcast used to be the
Mel Baker: preferred choice because it's it looks like zoom for all State
Mel Baker: purposes, as far as the interface for the users. But
Mel Baker: it gives far better audio quality. Zoom zoom audio is like 16 bit, and it just it's just crap
Mel Baker: you know we'll.
Phil James mobile: Daniel posted the for interviews. Daniel posted the link. Just bear history.org slash interviews.
Phil James mobile: Great.
Mel Baker: I suggest
Mel Baker: another thing that might be a really good viral thing that could be worked on over time. And of course it's volunteering time for other people to do work that I'm not going to do. But
Mel Baker: Phil's genealogy skills and Les's history skills about knowing how the movement has formed.
Mel Baker: It'd be kind of interesting to have a kind of genealogy of the bear movement.
Les Wright: No.
Mel Baker: Like the modern history of the bear movement, it'd be a really cute visual
Mel Baker: to be able to look at.
Mel Baker: Give us this really interesting perspective.
Mel Baker: you know, how did this lead to this? To this lead to this? This person was like a key player and
Mel Baker: making this happen. And
Mel Baker: here's the link to the interview, you know, and the live, rotating thing. But it'd be something that would really be cool on social media.
Les Wright: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Yeah, those 2 sides of.
Les Wright: To say a subject. A suggestion that Mike had made to me is to put together a Powerpoint slideshow of it.
Les Wright: I had one that I did back in in the late nineties. It's at Cornell now, but
Les Wright: you had to to update it and and do do a Powerpoint presentation and.
Mel Baker: What would be hysterically funny is if we had somebody with decent video skills to do a parody of finding your roots.
Mel Baker: you know.
Mel Baker: hosted by Phil or something.
Mel Baker: you know. And yeah.
Phil James mobile: Maybe not hosted by Phil.
Mel Baker: Well, but you're the genealogist. So
Phil James mobile: That's my point. This is my profession. So.
Mel Baker: Yeah, anyway.
Phil James mobile: Fun.
Mel Baker: Yeah, but it could be something that could be.
Mel Baker: yeah, I'm sorry. I've just spitballing
Les Wright: No, that's.
Phil James mobile: Fine. Yeah. I remember at Iml I met
Phil James mobile: somebody I could tell from his vest.
Phil James mobile: He was from I forget where it was
Phil James mobile: Wisconsin, I forget. But I said, Oh, this is must be your contestant. Who's on stage. He did really? Well, he said, yes, I'm his sash. Grandfather. He literally called himself his sash grandfather. I knew immediately what he meant, and he said we knew this guy was our best hope in 10 years. It wasn't Wisconsin. I forget where it was from.
Phil James mobile: But he did really. Well, he said, Oh, yeah, we've been grooming him for a year and a half, and
Phil James mobile: you know I passed the sash on to so and so, and the 2 of us worked together, but he called himself his sash grandfather.
Phil James mobile: I thought you know my genealogy had exploded so.
Mel Baker: That's kind of interesting.
Phil James mobile: Thing is like there's.
Mel Baker: Is, is there sort of this
Mel Baker: this movement? That's kind of parallels, the kind of the drag talking about the way
Mel Baker: the drag community has has kind of this structure of
Mel Baker: grooming people to
Mel Baker: take on the roles within the community and to win contests and things. I wonder if there's a parallel. Is there a parallel in the leather community that's developed? I don't remember that ever being a thing.
Phil James mobile: Well, the like. The Leather discussion group has a official mentor program
Phil James mobile: and they bring people through a year long
Phil James mobile: mentoring program. So that's kind of like a big brother little brother type thing. So yeah, there's certainly some of that.
Phil James mobile: No.
Mel Baker: Those are whole.
Phil James mobile: No, you need to interview me.
Mel Baker: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Yeah, that's a whole other. So go ahead. Get get your put on your journalist hat, Mel, and we'll do an interview. Someday.
Les Wright: Yes.
Phil James mobile: So funding.
Phil James mobile: Go ahead.
Les Wright: There is a couple couple again. Quick things hunter Harden had talked about.
Les Wright: His
Les Wright: kind of wanting to do or starting to do mentoring within the bear community.
Les Wright: and we are now at what I can determine is like the 3, rd
Les Wright: the 3rd generation
Les Wright: of bears. And that's an interesting idea there.
Les Wright: The people are kind of.
Les Wright: you know, kind of waking up to at this at this
Les Wright: point of evolution
Les Wright: of the community.
Les Wright: and the other thing that I also wanted to backtrack on a bit.
Les Wright: one of the questions I had asked Hunter was, how was he being financed?
Les Wright: He had started out paying for everything for himself.
Les Wright: and now, as a performer, he gets invited
Les Wright: to
Les Wright: come and speak all over the world. At the organizers expense, and
Les Wright: and I will be following up with him and with Tom Goss
Les Wright: with some other folks.
Les Wright: that
Les Wright: to figure out if there's the way that I or other members of
Les Wright: of of the History project could be sponsored.
Les Wright: That's how Peachtown worked, and that's how Rehoboth Beach both worked.
Les Wright: Because I knew people.
Les Wright: you know, personally who?
Les Wright: Who
Les Wright: who were, you know, who are organizers and and did that. So that's another thing?
Les Wright: So hopefully we can. We can.
Les Wright: Nourish.
Les Wright: Okay enough. If if.
Phil James mobile: If people don't know who you are and they
Phil James mobile: he has deemed himself. I guess he was voted
Phil James mobile: king of the Go-go bears
Phil James mobile: and he is extremely buff.
Phil James mobile: And he was a great interview.
Phil James mobile: So I
Phil James mobile: of pictures of his from, you know.
Phil James mobile: and his Facebook page. So
Phil James mobile: there are some just amazing pictures of him.
Phil James mobile: He's a crafty bear.
Phil James mobile: helm and dance
Phil James mobile: and so it's a bear I'm thinking of. I'm gonna post to our Facebook page this picture of him in this
Phil James mobile: you know, bear
Phil James mobile: costume, let's call it so he was a great interview. It was a really good interview.
Phil James mobile: I made him cry. So I'm happy.
Phil James mobile: Okay, you've made lots of boys.
Mel Baker: In your day. Yeah.
Les Wright: Yes.
Phil James mobile: This one was different. This one was different.
Phil James mobile: so just mentioning funding just to get it on tape. So Alejandro is looking at
Phil James mobile: slides slots that the Bear History Project International could use for
Phil James mobile: San Francisco eagle beer busts.
Phil James mobile: I guess the current Year calendar is filled up so he's looking for slots. In 2025,
Phil James mobile: a micro able to use again, that would be a
Phil James mobile: for people who are local and who are okay with going to a bar.
Phil James mobile: We need a couple people there to
Phil James mobile: collect the donations and probably hand out pins, and, you know, sell T-shirts. Maybe that kind of stuff to talk about the project.
Phil James mobile: So
Phil James mobile: we're going after that.
Phil James mobile: We have a gofundme set up if people don't know. So I listed that in the
Phil James mobile: agenda.
Phil James mobile: unless you want to say about the the archive. We had a meeting right last week 2 weeks ago.
Les Wright: But the Archive Committee. Yeah, I met 2 weeks ago. Yes,
Les Wright: and well, unfortunately, Gary Wasden did show up
Les Wright: at at start time
Les Wright: and waited 10 min, and I had in my calendar that it was starting a half hour later than when it actually did.
Les Wright: So Phil got my attention, and I managed to show up
Les Wright: 15 min late. Gary was gone, unfortunately, because there were a couple of other
Les Wright: members present who had wanted to talk with him. But what we did have happen. Let's see.
Les Wright: One thing that Clark had then had presented.
Les Wright: what he's been working on with with the
Les Wright: interviews and cataloging information to make make it useful
Les Wright: for people wanting to do research, to find who was saying what
Les Wright: at at each stage, in the interviews
Les Wright: and the other thing. Oh,
Les Wright: yeah. Sorry. Sorry. My brain is not quite my my memory is not quite working.
Les Wright: oh, Tim, gicking. Yeah, also, Kane.
Phil James mobile: Oh, okay.
Les Wright: And I reconnected with him in Rehoboth Beach.
Les Wright: and and he and I had worked on a couple of projects like 20 years ago.
Les Wright: And he is both
Les Wright: an artist. And he designed the
Les Wright: the the poster, for I think it was the 10th anniversary of the P-town
Les Wright: a bear week, and he also
Les Wright: knows tons of information about
Les Wright: all of the the bear various bear magazines and sells them.
Les Wright: It's 1 of his businesses right now that he sells.
Les Wright: you know, as collector copies.
Les Wright: you know, bear American bear, daddy, bear and magazines. I've never heard of
Les Wright: and
Les Wright: and he yeah. And he came to the to the Archive Committee. He has some information, and I was really hoping that he to connect
Les Wright: him and and Gary Wasden together.
Les Wright: I'm sure that'll happen in the future, and I've also really been trying to encourage him to, you know. Write a history of the publication, publication, history of of the bear magazines, because he's the guy who really knows that stuff.
Les Wright: So yeah.
Phil James mobile: We have a member who
Phil James mobile: works in or runs
Phil James mobile: I guess it's auto erotica in the Castro who is looking for bear magazine info. So we should mention that to Tim.
Les Wright: Okay.
Phil James mobile: I think they're both members.
Les Wright: Yeah, cool.
Les Wright: Just trying to be clear that when we're saying bear magazines, we're not talking about bulges publication. Only we're talking about all of them.
Les Wright: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Great.
Phil James mobile: Okay.
Phil James mobile: Les. What did you want to say about hunter Olson, who's here.
Les Wright: Hi Hunter. Yes.
Les Wright: Well, Hunter has has started doing a series of part
Les Wright: podcast. Called
Les Wright: barely.
Hunter Olson: Noticed
Hunter Olson: barely.
Les Wright: Notice I kind of at this point. I'm getting confused because there's barely visible which
Les Wright: is
Les Wright: tim Gecky's project.
Les Wright: and there's barely something else, and that's a barely noticed.
Hunter Olson: We're all gonna like mesh into one like some gigantic chimera out of out of the 3. Barely the barely whatever yeah.
Les Wright: Yeah, yeah.
Les Wright: So and hunter. And I have been talking.
Les Wright: you know, as a result of the interview that I did with
Les Wright: Benjamin big call the the bear Gogo
Phil James mobile: The other bear. Go, go!
Les Wright: Yeah, it was
Les Wright: who has a long history
Les Wright: of involvement, the bear community, and has been working on
Les Wright: a number of things. And we kind of had this meeting of the minds about a variety of issues, you know, historic and current in their community. And
Les Wright: I re I reached out to hunter to
Les Wright: moderate.
Les Wright: And then a discussion between the 2 of us for one of his podcasts.
Les Wright: and so that's something, the 3 of us are working on making happen now. And Phil had also suggested that
Les Wright: that that we, as a the Historical, the History Bear History Project group
Les Wright: do a similar kind of you know, I don't know interviewing or
Les Wright: of discussion podcasts with with people. So
Les Wright: there are 2 things out there and one hopefully, you and I are going to do very soon.
Les Wright: So yeah.
Les Wright: and.
Hunter Olson: Sorry go ahead.
Phil James mobile: I was just gonna say I'm looking on our bibliography page.
Phil James mobile: and the 1st 2 episodes are listed there.
Phil James mobile: Our bibliography is a hundred or so entries now. But you can filter it. So I said, just show me things that are podcasts and 2 of the 3 items. There are episodes one and 2
Phil James mobile: of the barely noticed. Podcast
Phil James mobile: and I'll add the you just released a 3rd one. Right? So I'll mention, I'll add that one to the page, there.
Phil James mobile: go ahead, hunter.
Hunter Olson: I forgot I was. Gonna say, I'm sorry.
Hunter Olson: Just the collaborating effort of moderating a discussion between less. And Benjamin Cole. That. That's that's what we're working on, I think.
Hunter Olson: Should should I take the initiative to reach out to him and say, Hey,
Hunter Olson: Would you want to come on, because I think I believe you gave me his email. So maybe that's what I'll do. Tomorrow.
Hunter Olson: I'll just. I'll just reach out to him and try to see if we can facilitate a time and date for for all that. So yeah.
Les Wright: Okay.
Les Wright: yeah. He's also very articulate and very engaging.
Les Wright: Inter.
Hunter Olson: That's exciting.
Les Wright: Yeah, yeah, wow.
Hunter Olson: May may maybe at some point we can talk about, maybe. What are some of the discussion questions, the topics, the issues that we could go over between the 2 of you, and I can sort of micromanage between the well, not micromanage. But you know what I mean. Act as moderator.
Hunter Olson: Great.
Les Wright: Right? Yeah. And
Phil James mobile: I was everything that I saw go by for a while. I was immediately putting
Phil James mobile: in our bibliography page.
Phil James mobile: and then we sort of ran afoul a little bit of Bear World Magazine who asked us not to post
Phil James mobile: links from their page for a week, which
Phil James mobile: I thought was odd, but I think they're probably using
Phil James mobile: their outreach as some kind of tracking for advertisers, or just to know where things are coming from. So
Phil James mobile: I kind of stopped posting everything instantly.
Mel Baker: There is a way to you can ask them if they have the code number.
Mel Baker: There's a way you we can embed
Mel Baker: the URL that we show on our page that gives them credit for the for the hit. We do that with our publication, San Francisco Public Press. We sometimes get picked up by major investigations, get picked up by major organ news organizations, and we have a URL code that gives us the credit for the click. So like we were in Propublica at 1 point, which is huge.
Mel Baker: And so we needed those numbers
Mel Baker: to show to our donors and funders. So there may be a.
Phil James mobile: Probably.
Mel Baker: You can ask them about.
Phil James mobile: What I what I've been doing is, you know, the article that they post
Phil James mobile: who
Phil James mobile: the web is a has a really long code in it.
Phil James mobile: and so I've been going to the article itself. So I get a nice short link
Phil James mobile: and posting that, and that's as if somebody had just stumbled over it. And so that's probably what they didn't want happening. So yeah, we can go back and talk to John Hernandez.
Phil James mobile: But I just kind of stopped posting everything instantly.
Phil James mobile: Yeah? Because then.
Mel Baker: That wouldn't matter. Then it wouldn't matter, or they could. Maybe they can give us a sub code within that. That says that
Mel Baker: the article was read on this platform.
Mel Baker: you know, since obviously they need to track that for advertisers and things. So.
Phil James mobile: Yeah. Bear world magazine is huge. By the way, they have 20,000 worldwide subscribers or or 60,000, some enormous number. So
Phil James mobile: I don't wanna step on their toes
Les Wright: Well, and.
Phil James mobile: They've been good to us.
Les Wright: John John is, I think, bringing this up right now because
Les Wright: they are
Les Wright: having financial difficulties. And you know, it's like really important that they can get the advertisers to to support them.
Phil James mobile: Right, and to really know how much they're generating. Yeah, good.
Phil James mobile: Okay. Les. Anything else from you.
Les Wright: Well, one other thing since Ali Lopez is here. Hello again, sir.
Les Wright: I think
Les Wright: his interview
Les Wright: with hunters, the 3rd
Les Wright: podcast barely
Les Wright: barely noticed. Podcast
Les Wright: and I also wanted to bring up. Since Ali is here. We had started to talk about a bear presence at the
Les Wright: was it the inner? I forget what's called the international
Les Wright: gay celebrations happening in DC. Next next year
Les Wright: in early spring.
Les Wright: so I'm not sure. Oh, he's on mute. I don't know if you can hear us.
Les Wright: Oh.
Les Wright: oh, well, if if you can.
Phil James mobile: Follow up with him? If not, yeah.
Les Wright: Yeah.
Les Wright: we can't.
Les Wright: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: I don't think I've heard anything about that. So.
Mel Baker: Yeah, when is that? What is that?
Les Wright: Yeah, it's it's next spring, it's and this is why I was hoping he could speak it. It's
Les Wright: an international
Les Wright: 25th anniversary or 50th anniversary. It's going to be huge. He lives in DC and
Les Wright: you know, because he's very involved in both the leather and bear communities.
Les Wright: He's kind of close to what's going on right now. And he had. He had asked me about
Les Wright: bears, bears having a presence at that, so.
Phil James mobile: Is this leather and leather and bear world pride gathering
Phil James mobile: in DC. In June.
Les Wright: Yeah, that must be what it is. Yeah.
Mel Baker: Hmm.
Les Wright: Does it say like 21, st 5th anniversary, or anything like that?
Phil James mobile: The Centaur Motorcycle Club would love to invite the leather and bear
Phil James mobile: intentions of the world to celebrate.
Phil James mobile: Oh, and Ally is the host of that. So I assume that's what he's talking about.
Phil James mobile: Yeah, okay, we'll follow up with him.
Les Wright: And also
Les Wright: And again I will let him speak for but
Les Wright: His club has been looking into
Les Wright: Giving money to the rare history project, and I'm not sure where where that
Les Wright: if at this point.
Phil James mobile: Oh, right
Phil James mobile: well! And also we have. We have word that mid Atlantic leather is thinking of
Phil James mobile: making the history project international Ace a beneficiary next year, right?
Les Wright: Yeah, that's that's that's it. Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Oh!
Mel Baker: It sounds like we should have a presence at that event, so that we can also talk to mid Atlantic
Mel Baker: leather.
Ali Lopez: Hello!
Les Wright: Oh, hello!
Ali Lopez: Sorry we sorry. I mean.
Ali Lopez: I've been having issues with my brother called me while I was on the
Ali Lopez: on the line, and I was trying to get back, and it's been a mess. But anyhow, starting.
Les Wright: But.
Ali Lopez: Starting with the 1st thing that I heard about the celebration of world pride that is going to be happening in Washington, DC. This summer coming up 2025, regardless of who wins.
Ali Lopez: we are hoping
Ali Lopez: that this goes on
Ali Lopez: As for me, in the center, Mc. We are planning to be in the parade which is going to be on Saturday, but the Friday before we want to have a gathering of bears and leather people at the Lincoln Memorial.
Ali Lopez: There's 2 reasons for that. 1st of all.
Ali Lopez: I've been to 2 world prides, and what usually end up happening is that the leather contingency, and the bears get put all the way to the end.
Ali Lopez: And it's not much that we can do about it, because they're the organ. The organizers.
Ali Lopez: So I decided to create an event
Ali Lopez: for us to be able to gather
Ali Lopez: at the Lincoln Memorial
Ali Lopez: in 1993, giving you a little bit of history of the reason why I'm doing this. In 1993 there was a march for equality in April.
Ali Lopez: I think it was April 25. If members serves me correct.
Ali Lopez: But anyway.
Ali Lopez: the day before the march for equality
Ali Lopez: the bears and leather people gathered at the Lincoln Memorial.
Ali Lopez: So it's fitting that we do the same thing.
Ali Lopez: No fanfare, just
Ali Lopez: everybody go there and gather as a social event
Ali Lopez: in a way, as a protest, but
Ali Lopez: also a way to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Bear Friendship Flag, which was actually enacted
Ali Lopez: in 1995. If memory serves me correct.
Ali Lopez: so it would be the 30th anniversary, and the flag was actually
Ali Lopez: enacted in the Maryland, DC. Virginia area.
Ali Lopez: I was at that meeting when it was voted into existence.
Ali Lopez: and I am going to do everything that I can to make sure that we celebrate that
Ali Lopez: The other thing that I just heard les discuss.
Ali Lopez: which is what
Ali Lopez: or club
Ali Lopez: is hoping to do.
Ali Lopez: But again, this has to be voted.
Ali Lopez: So it's not
Ali Lopez: saying that it's gonna
Ali Lopez: be done. A lot of the members are for it.
Ali Lopez: but it has to be put in out to the membership
Ali Lopez: to vote for it.
Ali Lopez: The advantages that we have is that the center. Mc. Has been donated to the leather archives for years. We're one of their biggest donor
Ali Lopez: mid Atlantic leather leather weekend is a weekend that is happening this year on 2025, January 10th to the 12, th
Ali Lopez: because of inauguration, we're not having it on a regular schedule, which is usually
Ali Lopez: Oh, martin Luther King weekend.
Ali Lopez: but because of inauguration we haven't it a week before.
Ali Lopez: So
Ali Lopez: the event is very much sold out already.
Ali Lopez: but they are still the ability to be able to get tickets
Ali Lopez: for the 3 day.
Ali Lopez: Oh, God! The vendor mart which is downstairs, and you also get tickets if you buy the 3 day pass.
Ali Lopez: which is what is called the 3 Day pass. You also get access to the contest.
Ali Lopez: but anyhow, the money that is gathered from the event.
Ali Lopez: Is broken down into different charities, and last.
Ali Lopez: we supposed to have voted supposed to have voted for them.
Ali Lopez: The last meeting we had in the beginning of October. But unfortunately, because we had so much to deal with
Ali Lopez: that went by the wayside. I'm gonna try to make sure that we stay on schedule, and we voted in November.
Ali Lopez: As soon as I know I will let let let you guys know. But you need to keep it on the down low until the centers release the information.
Phil James mobile: Okay.
Ali Lopez: Cost.
Phil James mobile: Day. Will that be if it happens? June.
Ali Lopez: That would be the the 1st Sunday of November. I don't have my calendar in front of me, but it's the 1st Sunday of November.
Phil James mobile: Event. When will the gathering be at the Lincoln Memorial?
Ali Lopez: That would be
Ali Lopez: June
Ali Lopez: 6 is, if member search me correct, I will send you the the link because I already created the event on Facebook.
Ali Lopez: The reason why I created the event so early is because I'm trying to get
Ali Lopez: world pride to make it a sanction event
Ali Lopez: to be able to make an assumption.
Phil James mobile: Friday. I see your I see your Facebook page, Friday, June 6.th
Ali Lopez: Yes, there you go!
Mel Baker: So so does the bigger organization help you with getting the park service permits. Are you gonna do anything? Or you just just gonna be a kind of a it was, I understand, the 93 event. It was just kind of a casual gathering. Is it? Gonna.
Ali Lopez: So it's basically the same thing.
Mel Baker: So you don't need to get a park service. That is.
Ali Lopez: Bingo.
Ali Lopez: exactly, because otherwise it's like $5,000 or more, because
Ali Lopez: or previous administration
Ali Lopez: make sure that people couldn't protest.
Ali Lopez: So to. In that end he raised the prices on everything.
Les Wright: Okay.
Mel Baker: Yeah.
Mel Baker: it was not. It was never easy to get permits in DC. I worked on the 87 March in Washington, and another couple of anti nuke and things when I was there. So yeah, it's always been hard.
Ali Lopez: So it's gonna be an unofficial event.
Ali Lopez: But it's gonna be providing that world Pride
Ali Lopez: Council approves this as a world pride event. It will be advertised as as world pride, event.
Ali Lopez: And I will do everything in my power to make sure that it is.
Les Wright: Hey!
Phil James mobile: Right?
Phil James mobile: Okay, thanks for that, Ellie.
Ali Lopez: My my pleasures, the least that I can do.
Les Wright: I also wanted to make make a footnote I think some folks know. But
Les Wright: at
Les Wright: Christopher. Yeah. Anyway, New York city pride. The 25th anniversary.
Les Wright: and I just did the 50th a year or so ago. Anyways, at the 25th anniversary bears. We made our 1st
Les Wright: kind of pro
Les Wright: public presence there through the Bml. We all agreed to show up at Bethesda Fountain.
Les Wright: and then, as a large group jumped into the parade.
Les Wright: So
Les Wright: anyways, yeah.
Phil James mobile: Gorilla, guerrilla, marketing.
Ali Lopez: So you're having another event at in New York?
Ali Lopez: Oh, no! The next
Ali Lopez: next year.
Les Wright: No, that. Yeah, that was historical. Footnote.
Ali Lopez: Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.
Ali Lopez: Oh.
Phil James mobile: Okay. Great thanks, guys.
Phil James mobile: I think that's my whole
Phil James mobile: agenda. Anything else, Daniel. Anything from you.
Phil James mobile: You're on mute if you do have anything. No, it's fine, great hunter! Anything else from you.
Phil James mobile: Mel. Anything from you
Phil James mobile: who are not mutated.
Mel Baker: I'm not mutated.
Ali Lopez: Hey? I'm a mutant. I take offense to that.
Phil James mobile: Anything else.
Mel Baker: Like go go centaurs
Ali Lopez: That's right, bitches.
Mel Baker: My partner, my
Mel Baker: centaur, when I lived there still in DC, so
Mel Baker: went to several center events.
Mel Baker: No. And when. So when's our next meeting?
Phil James mobile: Oh, I'll go look
Phil James mobile: while I do that.
Phil James mobile: Larry. Anything from you?
Phil James mobile: No, Jeffrey, anytime. You I have something for you to do, Jeffrey.
Phil James mobile: Anything
Phil James mobile: from for you.
Jeffrey Glover: What you have for me.
Phil James mobile: My ask of you is
Phil James mobile: I'd like you to get some idea what our
Phil James mobile: space is costing you on your website.
Phil James mobile: Your domain.
Jeffrey Glover: Sure I'll message you.
Les Wright: Oh!
Phil James mobile: Because, you know, we're gonna you know each of the interviews.
Phil James mobile: Those are like 200 MB of files, and they're on Dropbox right now. But
Phil James mobile: we will be moving some. Well, we we might just do links
Phil James mobile: from the website, that. And then the video will reside on Youtube, probably. But anyway, just I don't. Wanna. I don't want to lose the fact that you are hosting us
Phil James mobile: on your own domain, and that at some point you're we should, you should be compensated.
Jeffrey Glover: Oh, yeah, okay, I'll send you, you know, I I make sure that it was reasonable. So we're on. I think it's bluehost so it's bluehost, managed wordpress hosting. So I looked up and made sure it was something reasonable. So
Jeffrey Glover: and you know.
Jeffrey Glover: can you?
Jeffrey Glover: We paid for a a security certificate as well. A couple of different things I had to do on there. But we'll I'll let you know.
Mel Baker: And you said.
Phil James mobile: Okay.
Mel Baker: Send the Patreon links to all of us in email or something. So we can start setting up.
Mel Baker: start donating a little bit.
Phil James mobile: Oh, you know what speaking of done before doing that directly?
Phil James mobile: les. You're supposed to get our 5. 0, 1 C, 3 stuff to Alejandro, so he can set up a checking account.
Les Wright: Okay. Well, I thought I had, but I will do it again.
Phil James mobile: Okay, just make sure he has that
Phil James mobile: because then we can have stuff.
Phil James mobile: You know, we can have stuff go to benefit our checking account, and then
Phil James mobile: it's a little bit more legit of
Phil James mobile: you know. 5 0, 1 c. 3. This. So we're spending maybe $300 a month
Phil James mobile: at the moment. 3 $400 a month. So it'd be great if that were going through. Really our nonprofit
Phil James mobile: next meeting. So
Phil James mobile: the second Saturday in November is the 6.th Oh, I guess the second Saturday is the 9.th
Phil James mobile: Yeah, so
Phil James mobile: that will be the time of our next meeting the night, unless well, let's start with less can. Do, you know, are you available on November 9? th
Les Wright: Absolutely. And I just wanted to.
Phil James mobile: Double check.
Les Wright: The the second Saturday is the is the standard right.
Phil James mobile: Yes, yes, this one's late, because you couldn't make last week, so we're here now.
Phil James mobile: But but Mel could Mel could make last week.
Mel Baker: No, don't.
Ali Lopez: It's supposed to be there.
Ali Lopez: Yeah, really.
Phil James mobile: At the meeting.
Ali Lopez: Quick.
Ali Lopez: real quick, since we're talking about the 5 0 1 c. 3
Ali Lopez: paperwork. If you could send me information about your seal about your organization status. It would be very helpful, because that would be something else that I could use as a as a weapon to try to get you
Ali Lopez: the the donation from the center. Mc.
Les Wright: Okay, I will follow that as well. Yeah.
Mel Baker: So you know.
Phil James mobile: I don't. I don't.
Mel Baker: Remind them that there's a there's a former Centaur centaur wife
Mel Baker: on on the board, so.
Phil James mobile: On the board. Yeah.
Ali Lopez: And that's okay. He probably got violated by the Centaurs, anyway.
Mel Baker: Well, I got violated by several centaurs back in the day, but we won't go there.
Les Wright: Oh, you oh, yeah.
Phil James mobile: Apparently. We will go.
Les Wright: Beers, yeah.
Ali Lopez: I.
Phil James mobile: I get physical mail delivered here for the project, but I don't. I don't think I've seen something like a certificate. But between Mike Hernandez and
Phil James mobile: Alejandro, and you left one of you've got something official that they can give to Ally right.
Les Wright: Yeah, I will also email you a copy. Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Okay. Cool.
Les Wright: Okay.
Phil James mobile: Anything, else, anybody going, once, going, twice.
Les Wright: 1. 1 quick thing I also wanted to update here in Syracuse
Les Wright: our newly formed Syracuse bears.
Les Wright: which is still also using the old bear accuse, name
Les Wright: and bear anyways, and I really push that we
Les Wright: save Syracuse bears, because unless you're from Syracuse, people have no idea what Barracuse means. So, anyways, we had our 1st bear weekend. It was called
Les Wright: shockingly enough October fest.
Les Wright: and the the highlight was that we did a very long all day
Les Wright: fall foliage train ride through the Adirondacks to Old Forge, and
Les Wright: the group is growing and growing and growing, and
Les Wright: kind of you know. I I guess I I shook the tree enough on other people jumped into action and
Les Wright: and they're expanding beyond. They're now. We've now expanded beyond the monthly bar night.
Ali Lopez: Awesome.
Les Wright: That's very exciting. Yeah.
Ali Lopez: How many.
Phil James mobile: People. Would you say that is less.
Les Wright: Say? What.
Phil James mobile: How many people is it.
Les Wright: Well, we we had 40 on the train, which is the largest for an organized event.
Les Wright: and of course the thing with the bar. Night is.
Les Wright: it's always been both salt and barracuse, which is both leather and bear, and you know a lot of leather bears, and
Les Wright: people come and go, and you know there's no way to count who's who's there because of the group, or because they're they're just lushes. I don't know.
Phil James mobile: Right? Well, yeah, plus not everybody does bars. So it's great to see other things, too. So
Phil James mobile: great. Okay, thanks, folks.
Phil James mobile: I'm going to write up a little bit of notes, but we'll have the transcript of this meeting up
Phil James mobile: pretty soon.
Phil James mobile: thanks, everybody. I really feel almost for the 1st time. We kind of have this
Phil James mobile: 3rd wave of interest from folks.
Phil James mobile: And it's not just, you know, kind of 3 of us doing a lot of stuff. So thanks for people that we're doing things either tangentially like Hunter is doing.
Phil James mobile: You know, it's technically his own thing. But it's it's part of the community. It's part of our
Phil James mobile: general movement, and people are interested in things like doing some of the interviews. So if you're interested in doing the interviews in the future, like Mel and Jeffrey. Go have a look at some of the raw footage.
Phil James mobile: You know that's where they're officially stored, so be careful with them. But go look at those, and I'll also point you to
Phil James mobile: the highlight reel. Once I get that posted somewhere.
Mel Baker: I'm curious to see how well that works.
Mel Baker: I'm probably gonna be pretty horrified.
Phil James mobile: Yeah, I was afraid to even tell you. But it worked really well. I mean, I didn't. What I didn't do is I didn't compare
Phil James mobile: like, what did it pick out? And what did it leave behind?
Phil James mobile: But as a video, I mean, you guys, a 4 min video that took me 10 seconds to create
Phil James mobile: rather than 2 h.
Phil James mobile: It was amazing, it added subtitles. And it, you know it was. Now I can't quite figure out
Phil James mobile: what the what the template was that I used. But I'm going back to try to figure that out, and you know, of course, they've over engineered it up the Yin Yang. So you got to pick which template and the style of the header and blah blah. But as a 1st pass I was just astounded at it, so.
Mel Baker: I'm gonna be out of work. I have.
Mel Baker: I had to do a ton of audio editing on adobe audition, which is what I use. And
Mel Baker: you know it's incredibly complicated, and
Mel Baker: you have to know where to which dropdown to use for this, and which dropdown to use for that. And how many bit rates is do stuff. And
Mel Baker: so something like the script is kind of horrifying to me. It's like could be too easy.
Mel Baker: Let me do it myself.
Mel Baker: Yeah.
Phil James mobile: Well, they've brought in a an a helper app called Underlord, which is weird. But that's where this magic is happening.
Phil James mobile: So even in zoom. You see, you know the AI assistant. In fact, I'm getting a flashing thing. Now. Don't you want to use the AI assistant?
Phil James mobile: So it's kind of along those lines.
Phil James mobile: but I was astounded. How good it is
Phil James mobile: as a 1st pass. So
Phil James mobile: so it was great. I'll share that soon.
Phil James mobile: Great. Okay, thanks. Everybody.
Mel Baker: Take care! Alright! Take care! Bye.
Ali Lopez: Help. I'll help from this end as much as I can.
Phil James mobile: Great thanks. Ali.
Les Wright: Thank you very much. Yeah. Oh.
Les Wright: okay.
Les Wright: Bye-bye.